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Aremusflux   posted:12/31/2012 1:53:55 AM  (Reply)
In a nutshell, within the ghost community it is common to believe that a ghost is some disturbed dead person for whatever dramatic reason has the essence of being stuck haunting this reality at some familiar location. The spirit can be sent into the mysterious light thus letting our trouble spirit find some peace. In part gives the paranormal teams some frame work to start with and base an explanation off of. Sounds pretty cut and dried right?
Does anyone ever wonder where this assembly of a theory comes from? Good question?

I can speak from an experience, I do believe ghosts exist. After seeing an apparition run through a house with four other people watch the same thing. The ghost had blue jeans, a belt, a whit T-shirt. It was see through, misty, and the forms head was faded out, the hands and feet blurry. Amazingly cool.
Here is the thing, I didn't wonder about poor ghost mans soul, or if he suffered in this house in life. I really thought deep about what it was showing me. In the room with the four other people who were going on about who must have died here. I said to them, "Folks what does a dead spirit need with clothing, the cloths didn't die a miserable death?" They stopped like how dare I question the dead. "If he really was trying to haunt us or freak us out, I think some grim reaper look would do the job."

So I cooked up my own ideas over the years or a theory with a nugget of science fact tossed in.
The earth is s huge iron dynamo of Geo-magnetic forces. At times there are magnetic storm roaming all over this planet, some weak all the way to brutal and most invisible to the naked eye. But yet at times we can see an example of these forces at work, The Aurora Borealis, which is very ghostly acting.
Now for the ghosts: Picture a civil war soldier on a battle field at the right place and the right time during a rare and localize magnetic storm event. The soldier is hit invisibly by a surge of invisible magnetic storm for say 2 minutes. Consider the earth he is standing on is like a magnetic medium, such as a cassette tape or even a set of now charged particle. The soldier may even feel some dizziness as an effect.

Enter the 21st century and imagine I am a grounds keeper at that civil war battlefield on a rare day when a magnetic storm arrive, the hair on the back of my neck rises, due to static in the air. All of the sudden the storm reacts to the recording in the earth and shows me a partial play back, maybe even with sound or voices. Depending on the storm I may only see part of it. It is very random.

So after my theory here is what we have:
The ghost has a civil war history and intense troubling situation.
Civil war soldier with clothes on.
It's a ghostly projection, can't touch it, and may give of residual sensations.
Repeating and action like a recording of a projection.

The theory fills the criteria for a ghost, and I didn't include poltergeists or any other thing else here,
Applying to Just the basic ghost model.
Next stop, now I need some cash and technology to test it. (Laugh Out Loud)



Anyone else think about these things or have ideas about what ghost might be?

breeld   posted:12/31/2012 4:50:46 AM  (Reply)
I`ve heard an explanation similar to yours, I think. Sort of like a memory imprinted in time, or something like that. What you say makes sense-why would a ghost need clothes?
LincolnGenghis   posted:12/31/2012 10:43:34 AM  (Reply)
Your theorizing on residuals which you have an
Interesting line of thought on but years back
I lived in a place where it definately was not
Some stored or recorded event. I could not
Really classify it as an intelligent huanting though
because I don't think the thing was very
smart, but it did enough to really piss me off.
I would like to add a third category called
Moron haunting. There may be some spirits
that were so stupid in real life that when
they passed, the stupidity just followed
right along with them. Maybe some of them are
To clueless to move on.
Aremusflux   posted:12/31/2012 2:41:32 PM  (Reply)

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LincolnGenghis  posted:12/31/2012 10:43:34 AM  (Reply)
Your theorizing on residuals which you have an
Interesting line of thought on but years back
I lived in a place where it definately was not
Some stored or recorded event. I could not
Really classify it as an intelligent huanting though
because I don't think the thing was very
smart, but it did enough to really piss me off.
I would like to add a third category called
Moron haunting. There may be some spirits
that were so stupid in real life that when
they passed, the stupidity just followed
right along with them. Maybe some of them are
To clueless to move on.
Moron Haunting!!! That's awesome!!!

Fictional Example of a Moron Haunting:

I heard a conversation in the room bantering on like a Jerry Lewis skit. So I entered the doorway and there it was!
A male ghost, with it shirt on backwards, lecturing my lamp about the weather and flailing his hands at it.
All the sudden he notice me, attempted to throw a book at me. Some how he managed to hit himself in the head, did a pratfall to the floor and vanished. I left the lamp on in-case this moron ghost wanted to go into the light.
Aremusflux   posted:12/31/2012 3:31:08 PM  (Reply)

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breeld  posted:12/31/2012 4:50:46 AM  (Reply)
I`ve heard an explanation similar to yours, I think. Sort of like a memory imprinted in time, or something like that. What you say makes sense-why would a ghost need clothes?
I realize my ideas are not new or going to change the face of ghost hunting. Maybe the Egyptians had something to their burial practices by taking the stuff with them too the tomb down to the pet cat. So no imprints or residual ghost patterns would follow them.

Another thing, why is it we don't see ghosts of American Indians, Daniel Boone types or other settlers?
Always seams to be the Revolutionary War, Civil War, Victorian age to the present. At the ghosts that leave enough info to tell.

Like to hear reports of Ancient Egyptian ghosts, maybe a Viking ghost, Romans, and so on.
Perhaps there may be a time limit or the geomagnetic bonds deteriorate after so long?


Aremusflux   posted:12/31/2012 3:31:09 PM  (Reply)

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breeld  posted:12/31/2012 4:50:46 AM  (Reply)
I`ve heard an explanation similar to yours, I think. Sort of like a memory imprinted in time, or something like that. What you say makes sense-why would a ghost need clothes?
I realize my ideas are not new or going to change the face of ghost hunting. Maybe the Egyptians had something to their burial practices by taking the stuff with them too the tomb down to the pet cat. So no imprints or residual ghost patterns would follow them.

Another thing, why is it we don't see ghosts of American Indians, Daniel Boone types or other settlers?
Always seams to be the Revolutionary War, Civil War, Victorian age to the present. At the ghosts that leave enough info to tell.

Like to hear reports of Ancient Egyptian ghosts, maybe a Viking ghost, Romans, and so on.
Perhaps there may be a time limit or the geomagnetic bonds deteriorate after so long?


Jaxerback   posted:12/31/2012 10:08:10 PM  (Reply)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40AQ6A3WWSc
Wereparadox   posted:1/1/2013 12:05:23 PM  (Reply)
Useing the word ghost like you are is like trying useing the word bugs to discribe all the insect kingdoms differnt species. There are so many differnt things that people call "ghosts". And have you ever been in an anciant place? They have there own ghosts. You are right there is play back recordings that are imprinted on location. They do wear out due to changes in location or just time. Some are people who don't want to move on. You can't communicate with a recording. Then there are elemental spirits. Melevolent or benevolent spirits that are bonded with a familly or person. Most poltergiests are elemental. Water or earth or both. They worst thing you can get is a melevolent fire/air spirit. What's more confusing is there can be strange combonation of them. Even human spirits due to the uniqueness of each being can have weird talents after death. Most just move on. Some hang around for awhile but eventually lose there fear and/or confusion and leave. There are also other things that people might call ghosts but those are very rare. (Now a days) They are best left unmensioned. Old legends say that to mension things like that is to get there attension. Plus even bodies can have other like minded or semi-like minded things attached to them. Parasitical or symbyonical. Then there are random bits of chaos. Like when just the right combonation of things happen at the right time and something really... umm. Differnt happens. Also there are ways to get things to come and go. Though the true ways to do that are largely lost. You find any real ways on the internet for example. Books of shadows, necronomicon, keys of solomon, mysteries of bla bla ect. Mostly are junk. They have seeds of truth mostly. For some reason when someone actually stumbles on something real they crave it like golum. Precious my precious. Even when someone translates stuff the don't almost ever do it straight. They leave things out for what ever reason they tell themselves. "People can't handle this." Or "I'm protecting people for there own good." They just want to feel special. I say anything I think is usefull. Although I have found out many times that a lot of stuff just plain doesn't help the average joe. If they do see the world as it is then they often eather just plain denigh it. Or more rarely they lose it and harm themselves or/and others. Not everyone can by a hero. Some people are ment to be farmers and that's just fine. But say put the knowledge out there and let people make there own choises... and once again I gotten way off topic. Everything is connected. To easy to do.
Aremusflux   posted:1/1/2013 1:41:47 PM  (Reply)

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Wereparadox  posted:1/1/2013 12:05:23 PM  (Reply)
Useing the word ghost like you are is like trying useing the word bugs to discribe all the insect kingdoms differnt species. There are so many differnt things that people call "ghosts". And have you ever been in an anciant place? They have there own ghosts. You are right there is play back recordings that are imprinted on location. They do wear out due to changes in location or just time. Some are people who don't want to move on. You can't communicate with a recording. Then there are elemental spirits. Melevolent or benevolent spirits that are bonded with a familly or person. Most poltergiests are elemental. Water or earth or both. They worst thing you can get is a melevolent fire/air spirit. What's more confusing is there can be strange combonation of them. Even human spirits due to the uniqueness of each being can have weird talents after death. Most just move on. Some hang around for awhile but eventually lose there fear and/or confusion and leave. There are also other things that people might call ghosts but those are very rare. (Now a days) They are best left unmensioned. Old legends say that to mension things like that is to get there attension. Plus even bodies can have other like minded or semi-like minded things attached to them. Parasitical or symbyonical. Then there are random bits of chaos. Like when just the right combonation of things happen at the right time and something really... umm. Differnt happens. Also there are ways to get things to come and go. Though the true ways to do that are largely lost. You find any real ways on the internet for example. Books of shadows, necronomicon, keys of solomon, mysteries of bla bla ect. Mostly are junk. They have seeds of truth mostly. For some reason when someone actually stumbles on something real they crave it like golum. Precious my precious. Even when someone translates stuff the don't almost ever do it straight. They leave things out for what ever reason they tell themselves. "People can't handle this." Or "I'm protecting people for there own good." They just want to feel special. I say anything I think is usefull. Although I have found out many times that a lot of stuff just plain doesn't help the average joe. If they do see the world as it is then they often eather just plain denigh it. Or more rarely they lose it and harm themselves or/and others. Not everyone can by a hero. Some people are ment to be farmers and that's just fine. But say put the knowledge out there and let people make there own choises... and once again I gotten way off topic. Everything is connected. To easy to do.
You, your statement was just what I wanted to hear and it's a pleasure to know someone has such vast knowledge. You are correct and I shouldn't be so generic on term "Ghost". I cannot agree more that the variety of entities that can cross into our dimension staggering.
No I have not been to an ancient place outside of the county I live in. I may do that some day soon, I have some places in mind.
I chuckled when you mentions the "Books of shadows, necronomicon, keys of Solomon, mysteries of bla bla ect. Mostly are junk."
It is amazing how practitioners of to day will hazardously just take some book and its threads of truth and melt it together with some other practice and call it something new. I call it a mess! And dangerous. Not only do they want to feel special they are wanting power, like a 3 year old with a loaded gun. I to have studied up on much of the materials of which you speak, I agree with you. I learn about it yet I know I am not one of the chosen to wield such power. BTW go off topic anytime you feel, it's good. Thank you very much Wereparadox.
LincolnGenghis   posted:1/1/2013 6:44:42 PM  (Reply)
LoL yes the necronomican is brought up so
Many times by folks its funny. You are completly
Right about that book being bunk as far as a
Serious book. The book was written by one
Of the greatest horror scify writers by the name
of HP Lovecraft. After he created it he used
It as an insertable item in some of his other
Stories. It was brilliant ...
There are still people to this day that use
some of theories and names he manufactured
in that book. LOL

Yes I am a huge fan of his..collected all his
Works. Without him I doubt there would be
the steven kings or clive barkers of the world
Not to mention countless others.
Wereparadox   posted:1/2/2013 10:23:36 AM  (Reply)
But don't fully count ol H.P. as being totally false. He did his research as well. He was us before the internet. He was well versed. Lots of the gods are real gods of religions. Some of which back then he would of had lots of trouble researching considering what was known about the old gods. Plus take another look at the magazine that used to publish his stuff. "Weird tales" everyone has seen the movie men in black. Well remember when K goes up and grabs that.... what do you call those... fake news paper of strange things. I forget the word. But anyway he finds out what's going on by reading the supposedly fake report on it. Well yes a lot of what was in "Weird tales" was just imagination but a lot was what was in peoples mind and some times that's very true. Some times it was a way for certain groups to let others know what was going on. All great stories have the seeds of truth in them. That's what makes them great. Ever read Steven Kings "magnum opus" The Dark Tower? If you haven't read those you don't know king. You have to read his little blurbs as well. Have you guys seen close encounters of the forth kind? Read The hounds of tindalos. Its a H.P. esk type writeing. Read it then watch the movie. When the truth is agressivly burned and buried one must dig deep and find it. Remember Indiana Jones words "X never marks the spot"
spooky1   posted:1/2/2013 7:04:15 PM  (Reply)
My house is haunted.the woman who lived on our property b4 our house was built supposidly was coo-coo & buried her money alls over. She's still here, thank God she's got clothes & not naked! !!
LincolnGenghis   posted:1/2/2013 7:13:54 PM  (Reply)
Buried her money? That's it I'm stopping over
With 2 cases of beer a bottle of jim Beam and a shovel.
If you hear weird digging noises outside just
Ignore them. If I find any magic stones I will
Send them to the prophet.
breeld   posted:1/3/2013 7:34:07 AM  (Reply)
I`ll buy all the magic stones you can find. And, NO, not just any stones
you pick up out of the yard. You`ve got to prove them magic.
Spooky-you tried to find any money yet?
spooky1   posted:1/3/2013 3:34:38 PM  (Reply)
No when they tore up her house they found it all :(
breeld   posted:1/4/2013 6:39:14 AM  (Reply)
Well, I`d probably still be doing a little stealth digging, just in case.
jeff   posted:1/23/2013 12:08:18 PM  (Reply)
Enter the 21st century and imagine I am a grounds keeper at that civil war battlefield on a rare day when a magnetic storm arrive, the hair on the back of my neck rises, due to static in the air. All of the sudden the storm reacts to the recording in the earth and shows me a partial play back, maybe even with sound or voices. Depending on the storm I may only see part of it. It is very random.


Wouldn't this imply, though, that you could also see recordings of living people and not just dead people as long as there is a storm?
breeld   posted:1/23/2013 5:05:50 PM  (Reply)
But how do you explain there being "recordings" of dead people. That, in itself, is spooky.
(No, not you, Spooky).
spooky1   posted:1/24/2013 11:36:08 AM  (Reply)

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breeld  posted:1/23/2013 5:05:50 PM  (Reply)
But how do you explain there being "recordings" of dead people. That, in itself, is spooky.
(No, not you, Spooky).
Ah haha was that a coincidence?
HeatherNMoose   posted:2/3/2013 12:01:15 AM  (Reply)
Residual hauntings are common, especially in areas with a high density of quartz rock. Its theorized the crystals record the events and replay them. However, this doesn't explain intelligent/interactive hauntings. I had a ghost for a few years that came attached to something a neighbor gave me when he moved out of the apartment next to me. Ugly, old, brushed brass, post-style lamp with a very active ghost that I named Henry. He was all about causing chaos. I turned up the stereo, he'd turn it down, same thing with the TV (on and off) microwave beeping, alarm clock muting, the whole nine. He liked to sweep behind the curtains in front of the sliding door, sending them ruffling up and scaring the hell out of any guests. I tried to get rid of the lamp, several times, and each time it came back to me in a strange way. So eventually I decided that if I had to keep it, I was going to paint it to my liking (I'm an artist). After that Henry was great! The obnoxious activity stopped, and he was a mellow house guest for some years.


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