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spooky1   posted:11/17/2011 5:27:48 PM  (Reply)
Dose anyone no of or has heard of people with mental illnesses are more sensitive to the spirit world?I once heard years ago mentally ill people were "the choosen" I'm not talking about hearing voices or delusional sights
I mean being more sensitive. If anyone.has info on this.I'd really.appreciate. it
Omen502   posted:11/17/2011 6:18:32 PM  (Reply)
Well, unfortunately, I have heard of this possibly within my family and even been accuse of touches of schizophrenia myself. I do admit yes, I am not normal, but I disagree. Recently I have been doing research and do not believe this is the only way the sensitivity occurs. I hear tones as you can see in a previous post and will leave a link of my findings about this. I am leaving a wikipedia link also to connect it to the shadow beings I have seen with my own eyes. Not sure myself, I do not consider myself a professional on this topic so all I can do is state previous experiences and prominent thoughts on this subject. If you would like to hear more of them spooky, I would be glad to share on a personal note until I am ready to think through these experiences and put them into my future writings. My father sees and speaks to things that "are not there". After all I wouldn't want to be considered more crazy than I already am right?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001925/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_people

spooky1   posted:11/17/2011 6:42:42 PM  (Reply)
Thx for sharing "O" I to have been classified as "mentally. Ill" I suffer from clinical depression.panic dissored anxiety dissored.add agoraphobia insomnia. &a fear of driving & social.anxiety . No u r not crazy, at. Least no mpore. Than me.I see spirits shadows & things I'd love to share but its very emotional & IV only shared with a couple of people. Everyone thinks.I'm nuts but I just think outside the box
breeld   posted:11/17/2011 7:56:35 PM  (Reply)
Spooky1-Just thought I`d add my .02 here. I too suffered from agoraphobia, panic attacks and depression. In fact, I didn`t drive a car for over 3 years. Heck, I would panic just going outside. I`ve also had paranormal experiences, mostly dreams that came tru since I was a child. Doesn`t make us crazy, tho, huh? We`d probably be surprised at the people that have some of the same problems.
spooky1   posted:11/17/2011 8:09:40 PM  (Reply)
I think we r the "normal" ones & everyone else is fucked up.thank u for sharing.with me, now I no I'm not alone
jaguarsky   posted:11/18/2011 11:13:42 AM  (Reply)
I think part of the problem stems from what gets you classified as mentally ill. If you experience paranormal phenomenon and accept them as real and dare to speak of it to a counselor or clinician, you WILL get branded as having a schizo-type disorder. If you just keep your mouth shut no one will ever know. Well, at least about the paranormal stuff.

I too have a lovely long clinical label on my medical records: depression, magical thinking, hallucinations (visual and audible)agorophobia, yadda yadda yadda. I also did not drive my car for three years. I kept forgetting how to drive and would get lost just going to the store. But in my defense I had been working for Satan (MBNA) and it shoved me right over the precipice.

spooky1   posted:11/18/2011 11:38:33 AM  (Reply)
I was very careful never to mention it to any of "those" people u have to b very careful what u tell them or they'll lock u up & that's no fun.I just go to get my meds other than that I think there all idiots
spooky1   posted:11/18/2011 11:39:10 AM  (Reply)
I was very careful never to mention it to any of "those" people u have to b very careful what u tell them or they'll lock u up & that's no fun.I just go to get my meds other than that I think there all idiots
Ninnana   posted:11/18/2011 11:54:26 AM  (Reply)
Well, one thing is sure, there are a lot of mental cases everywhere one turns, and so the Paranormal world as well.
Omen502   posted:11/18/2011 6:42:13 PM  (Reply)
Yes, well I truly do not believe and never have been "diagnosed" of any of these disorders, I merely speak upon what I have experienced. I am not afraid of "those" people and never seen the point behind going to someone else to tell me what is wrong with me. I think there is nothing wrong with me but a fucked up world I am forced to live in and then if I did go to a doctor they would want me on some kind of medication that I refuse to take. Yet, I keep a positive mind as much as possible, there is a little depression I am sure everyone gets it. I am not worried to much about it but when I am huddled over by beings and I can't move then what illness is this?
spooky1   posted:11/18/2011 7:39:21 PM  (Reply)
I get that too. Ill be sleeping on my stomach wake up & feel like someone is pressing so hard against my back I cant move.I'm on meds cause my anxiety is so bad I cant function,its horrible .being. in this world never seemed right, like.I belong somewhere else.hard to explain
RedBird   posted:11/19/2011 8:06:19 AM  (Reply)
I think jaguarsky is right. If you experience or believe in paranormal, you get labeled mentally ill and there is no distinction between those people and the ones who ACTUALLY ARE mentally ill. At least no distinction in the established health care world.

But I believe specifically with people who can truly sense spirits, ghosts, communicate with them or has some other psychic gift are more likely to become drained and depressed because of it. Especially if they don't really know what it is and don't have no real help or answers and become terrified of it or if they don't know how to deal with it.

So in that case, the sensitivity to the paranormal comes first and then they get labeled as "mentally ill" later BECAUSE OF the sensitivity... the health care industry can't accept it as being a real ability.

They see or hear things that aren't there, they get labeled as having hallucinations. They somehow know stuff about different characters that aren't there, they think the "patient" is talking about their other personalities. So a relatively normal person with paranormal sensitivity becomes a Schizophrenic.

In my own case, I've been labeled as having depression, and to tell you the truth, I am somewhat, but just not as bad as it was before when my journey began.
spooky1   posted:11/19/2011 9:20:26 AM  (Reply)
Thx Redbird that really makes me understand.not claiming in a physics but I am sensitive,etc. That all explains why I'm always so tired
Omen502   posted:11/19/2011 1:26:06 PM  (Reply)

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RedBird  posted:11/19/2011 8:06:19 AM  (Reply)
I think jaguarsky is right. If you experience or believe in paranormal, you get labeled mentally ill and there is no distinction between those people and the ones who ACTUALLY ARE mentally ill. At least no distinction in the established health care world.

But I believe specifically with people who can truly sense spirits, ghosts, communicate with them or has some other psychic gift are more likely to become drained and depressed because of it. Especially if they don't really know what it is and don't have no real help or answers and become terrified of it or if they don't know how to deal with it.

So in that case, the sensitivity to the paranormal comes first and then they get labeled as "mentally ill" later BECAUSE OF the sensitivity... the health care industry can't accept it as being a real ability.

They see or hear things that aren't there, they get labeled as having hallucinations. They somehow know stuff about different characters that aren't there, they think the "patient" is talking about their other personalities. So a relatively normal person with paranormal sensitivity becomes a Schizophrenic.

In my own case, I've been labeled as having depression, and to tell you the truth, I am somewhat, but just not as bad as it was before when my journey began.
Nicely put redbird, I agree.
nugglebunny81   posted:11/19/2011 2:30:14 PM  (Reply)
if u want to know the truth about being told you have a mental diagnosis. the best therapy for anything is cognitive therapy. but watch this video, its very telling, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qs9TLTvYFs
U4rikmind   posted:11/19/2011 7:54:52 PM  (Reply)
I spent a lot of time with my cousin who has the schizophrenia. He is one of the most spiritual men I ever had the chance to be around. He moved to Texas to start his life over after some mishaps that got him back to the hospital. We always smoked pot together and listened to music. One minute we are talking to each other and the next hes talking to something else. Whatever he talks to constantly makes him laugh. Sometimes he would say hes the god of war, Ares, Brolli from Dragonball Z, and Raiden from Mortal Kombat. He told me I was a silver back? , Turles (also dragonball Z), and Sub-Zero from Mortal Kombat. A lot of the things that made him tick, also made me as well. I did think he was crazy when I first met him but the more we spent time together the more I seen that every single person on the planet is throwed-off (crazy as fuck). I miss him a lot.
spooky1   posted:11/19/2011 9:29:08 PM  (Reply)
I'm sorry he's away from u & no ur time spent.was special. When I was in one of the hospitals one of my closest friends.also had schizaprenia was the nicest (honestly) nicest persons I have ever meet.we are all fucked up in our own way.but I'm.accepting myselfas is. Just would like to understand what's going on.with the spirits & stuff.
Omen502   posted:11/21/2011 10:45:14 AM  (Reply)
I have also heard that schitzophrenia and autism is not natural, that it was created. Possibly an experiment and/or byproduct and effect of one. I have known a few autistic children and they are usually far advanced in one form of thought process and severly lacking in others. For instance I have heard of children that can break codes and see things improbable to the view of "normal" individuals.

Autistic child a genius

also if you take into consideration the the information and research released on autism you will find Experts estimate that two to six children out of every 1,000 will have autism. Males are four times more likely to have autism than females. There is not a full population count of all individuals with autism in the United States. However, using the occurrence data stated above, we can estimate that if 4 million children are born in the United States every year, approximately 24,000 of these children will eventually be diagnosed with autism. I believe these counts to be rising since it's introduction in 1943 by the child psychiatrist Leo Kanner.

Autism the medical mystery

Here is another link to further elaborate the epidemic of autism

The Autism Epidemic

This also is the kicker I think. The link to Schizophrenia and more. "Swiss psychiatrist Eugen Bleuler first introduced the term autism in 1911. Autism and autistic stem from the Greek word "autos," meaning self. The term autism originally referred to a basic disturbance in schizophrenia, in short, an extreme withdrawal of oneself from the fabric of social life, but not excluding oneself."

Autism History and Statistics

The last link, the link between schizophrenia and autism

Genetic Link between Schizophrenia and Autism
jaguarsky   posted:11/22/2011 11:17:45 AM  (Reply)

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spooky1  posted:11/18/2011 7:39:21 PM  (Reply)
I get that too. Ill be sleeping on my stomach wake up & feel like someone is pressing so hard against my back I cant move.I'm on meds cause my anxiety is so bad I cant function,its horrible .being. in this world never seemed right, like.I belong somewhere else.hard to explain
Sleeping on your stomach can cause spasms in the muscles of your back, especially if you are sleeping on a not so great mattress. The spasms can mimic a feeling of pressure. Try a new mattress or not sleeping on your stomach and see if the problem continues. You could also try taking magnesium and calcium suppliments which help with muscle health.
gary107   posted:11/22/2011 12:16:56 PM  (Reply)
Autism may merely be a development stage of the human personality, the first stage. Running tree to tree and trying to stay ahead of the larger animals early human did not have the time to develop personal relationships or to dwell on what just happen to a relative or sibling. Asperger's Syndrome [ hight functioning autism ] has been considered a mental illness, then not , and then again. I think we who spend less time involving ourselfs with person to person relationships are found to have more time to divote to determining the patterns to the prime numbers or interesting questions in history, physics, or philosophy. It is a matter of preference and avoiding stressful involvements. Mr.
Goldwyn of MGM Inc. once said [he had to deal with film stars] "...anyone who goes to a Psychatrist should have their head examined!" It is an indusrty out to make profit and bring in more business.


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