On 5/8/2008 8:05:16 PM - spectralreview wrote:The show has not been canceled. It has not been officially renewed either. A&E will announce it when they think it's good business sense for them.
On 5/8/2008 4:27:46 PM - jeff wrote:Great post. I haven't been keeping up on it ever since the season ended and I wasn't aware that it was being canceled. As for Ryan being disrespectful for moving rocks, yes, but if it's all scripted, does it matter? Besides, Ryan didn't trust the elder as to it being a holy spot. I don't know if I would have, either. And yes, I know the story of Lorraine being a fraud, but I also heard Defeo's lawyer was lying and not Lorraine and her husband and the Lutzes. That whole case is loaded with multiple plot lines which has cemented it in paranormal lore and it all made her a welcomed addition to a paranormal-based program. Has anyone ever interviewed Lorraine about the fraud accusation?
I don't believe in demons the way that many catholics do since most of them were just dressed up pagan gods to convert the peasantry, so the case that she's a "fraud" has a certain appeal any which way you look at it. Regardless she seems to bring a sense of peace to people she speaks to, so I don't really have a problem with her Beelzebubs, Baals, and Belials.
In both the instance of Ryan moving rocks when he was told not to, and the instance where Defeo's lawyer could be the one lying, you never know who you should listen to, and those arbitrary decisions in everyone's head creates that massive variety of people out there. Was Ryan being disrespectful? Not if the elder was wrong. Is Lorraine a fraud? Not if Defeo's lawyer who didn't receive all of his attorney fees from the Lutzes was making up that they made it up. People can be just as haunted as houses, and if the Lutzes moved out, you could make a case that so did the supposed spirits.
On 5/8/2008 2:59:15 PM - WhyADuck wrote:Given the high production values and scripting, Paranormal State certainly made for great entertainment, right up there with Most Haunted. However, I have two problems with Ryan's religious beliefs: first is a lack of respect for the beliefs of others. This was seen in the episode where they call in a Penobscot elder who walks them around a property and points out a rock formation and tells them not to disturb it. So what do they do as soon as he leaves? Break out the shovels and start digging. This was nothing short of arrogant and disrespectful, not to mention stupid - as any experienced ghost hunter will tell you: always show great respect for sacred sites of Native Americans. To do otherwise is to invite trouble. And let's not forget his ending that episode by burying Christian medals on Native American land.
Secondly, it's one thing to have religious beliefs, it's another thing entirely to allow those beliefs to hinder the search for truth. If you hold the belief that the world is flat, you'll ignore any evidence that it's round. This was pretty evident through out the season. Then you have his obsession with demons. Real ghost hunters run into demons how often? Once in a lifetime? And yet Buell comes across three in three weeks? Again, great entertainment, but factual - hardly. And then you have his beginning every evp session by asking: Are you a demon? I don't know much about demons but I think it's a little naive to expect a real demon to be truthful. And I would think a "Yes" answer is more likely to be a nefarious spirit trying to take advantage of the fears of those asking.
Finally, Lorraine Warren may be adorable, but she's also a complete fraud: she and her husband were primarily behind the claim that the Amityville house was infested with demons, a claim that was put to rest when DeFeo's lawyer, William Weber, admitted that he and the Lutzes made the whole thing up over many bottles of wine. No demons, in fact not even haunted according to subsequent investigations and residents. It's my understanding that this show has been canceled, and there won't be a second season...
On 5/7/2008 11:11:45 AM - thirstyanyway wrote:You can see the whole pilot episode (Part 1-5) on YouTube. John's stuff starts half way through Part 3. You can read some of his book on the Google Book Search.
On 5/7/2008 11:09:34 AM - thirstyanyway wrote:One of the witnesses, John Predovan, wrote Curved Memories. His MySpace page says he's writing another book. If you check out the case comments too you'll see there's a lot more to this story.
On 5/6/2008 5:49:14 PM - heretic5 wrote:Christianity was distorted by additions to the Bible (Old plus New Testaments). A way to detect those additions was discovered and used. The results are similar in some ways to the common versions of Christianity; but different in other ways. The results are available for inspection at http://greatriddle.flifree.com
On 5/4/2008 12:20:46 PM - HVRN_INC wrote:Jeff,
You did a fantastic job on the show and I have been getting FLOODED with emails to have you back ASAP. They have been downloading your archive like crazy! Thank you again so very much for the interview and I hope we can do it again soon.
Todd Bates
President/CEO/Radio Host
HVRN Corporation
www.hauntedvoicesradio.com
"Bringing Paranormal To The World"
On 5/3/2008 8:34:10 PM - vict123oria wrote:actually i just felt like writing thta..thats all..i was going to write about the chicken and the egg and laying the foundations of new world order..i would have written about secret societies of today and how they have influenced our current lives..but that would have taken me so long to write..
On 5/2/2008 5:39:13 PM - jeff wrote:Maybe it's like a glockenspiel, but said by someone with peanut butter in his mouth.
On 5/2/2008 3:26:54 PM - caniswalensis wrote:What is a brockenspeil?
On 5/2/2008 3:24:59 PM - caniswalensis wrote:LMAO!!
On 5/2/2008 3:05:45 PM - mallybrown wrote:Maybe they do not have a REMOTE chance of being accurate, or their view master is a brockenspeil ?
On 5/2/2008 3:03:11 PM - mallybrown wrote:He could not control his bowel movement ?
Did that mean that it also flew up in the air and flew away without any trace?
Or did his bowel movement attack the flying creature and drive it off ?
On 5/2/2008 2:39:35 AM - OPENMINDED BIBLEMAN wrote:i don't know. I'll have to Reviewthe Photo Later .
On 5/2/2008 2:31:57 AM - OPENMINDED BIBLEMAN wrote:REALLY
On 5/2/2008 2:31:19 AM - OPENMINDED BIBLEMAN wrote:INTERESTING. They REALLY Could'ov Left out the part about the BOWELL Movement.
On 5/2/2008 12:52:01 AM - jeff wrote:Great post, vict123oria...although it seems to be slightly off topic, unless you are hinting that night terrors are the result of the overemphasis on the masculine half of consciousness.
On 5/2/2008 12:33:07 AM - vict123oria wrote:at last..a new energy is coming to earth and that is where consciousness becomes free for all..in the mystery shools of old there has been great debate and that debate should begin something like ..is the average man safe and responsible enough to handle consciousness,the answer is yes.the world needs consciousness.it need the ancient wisdom and it needs new technologies,,the west is based on technology and masculinity,not having any respect for the consciousness of gaia and the feminine..this is finally about to change dramatically..it was not a divine plan to have supressed consciousness on earth,the plan of the spirit world is to see that this planet is filled with love and joy..the reality at the moment is that people in certain parts of this planet are starving and the only reason is because somebody is holding back the flow of energies..people who run countries should be deeply connected with the spirit and they should really know what spirit is asking of them..the prime ministers and presidents of this planet must have some form of spiritual conection,whilst the flow of energy on earth doesnt flow as it should all because of decisions made in the past and for all the wrong reasons,many many things get supressed on this planet..there are those on this planet who are manipulative with consciousness and energy and then there are those who let it happen or follow the trends and make it happen even more,then there are those who dont have enough energy to be able to see the truth of what is going on ..but all this will change when we embrace this christ consciousness that is finally arriving here..2000 years ago a new consciousness arrived here,a new state of being,but it never filtered through to the masses..secret societies witheld much of the truth,suppressing the feminine aspect of this consciousness as a result causing unbalance in the world..
On 5/2/2008 12:24:04 AM - jeff wrote:mura=village
On 5/2/2008 12:20:46 AM - jeff wrote:It also seems to mean 'the city gentlemen.'
Straight from the Newswires:
